Archives for: January 2005

01/31/05

GOB signals walkthrough

I mentioned the "GOB" utility a couple of times already, but the more I use it, the more I start to love it.

I'd like to take you on a little "Glib/GObject Signals" tour today.

First of all, what are Signals? The GObject Signal API states:

Signals

Permalink . Ikke . 02:04:57 pm . 830 Words . Technology, Linux, Coding Corner . . 7549 views . 46 comments

01/30/05

Jono Bacon wrote an article on Python coding for beginners, using PyGtk and Glade to create GUI's.
The article was inspired by his work on an application handling iRiver devices. It is (AFAIK) using HAL too.
Guess it's time for me to (re)start doing some Python coding too... Get some more skills ;-)

I fixed some (mail handling) bugs in Beagle yesterday, got the "Open IM" functionality of Best working locally (again using a patched Gaim). Mail patch should be applied soon.

[edit]Patch has been applied: link (and other updated files)[/edit]

Trying to get some GObject's for CDIS working using GOB now. GOB really rocks, it's so easy to write code once you read the complete manpage :-)

Plea"se note Ivman got a new Wiki, thanks to Rohan.

Permalink . Ikke . 05:37:09 pm . 268 Words . Technology, Linux, Desktop, Ivman . . 853 views . 1 comment
More exams, no more cold, Linux Gaming

Peter seems to be interested how I'm doing atm, so here's a small update. First of all, the cold is (almost) over. And my Physics exam was, erm, reasonable. I think I can get a B on it, but I'm not entirely sure (it was a multiple choice exam, which means that if I answered a question wrong, points are substracted :-/ ). An A is possible as well, but I don't think I'll have that much luck :-p (the theory questions were very hard imho).

(if you are not familiar with the grade-system at our faculty: A>=13/20, B>=10/20, C>=6/20, D>=0/20 or less :-p )

Anyway, I'm preparing for the next exam now, and that's one of the reasons why I waited this long to post here. I don't think that next exam (Statistics, just like Peter) is going to work out well. But we'll see.

About the 'Linux Gaming' part: It's quite simple, I like linux, and I like gaming. I just love fragging a bunch of people online to relax or focus my mind (really!). Just to give this blog some content, I plan to (shortly) review some (linux) games I have played. Just try them out, most of them are free (some free as in free beer, some free as in ...). Btw, my nick is [BE]RealNitro. ;-)

Number one: Cube

Cube is an Open Source FPS (First Person Shooter). Just like most other FPS games, Cube has a singleplayer and multiplayer mode.

In single player mode you just shoot some dumb (as in Doom1-dumb) monsters, in a lot of different levels. Some levels have a 'story' in them, but most of the time it's just a matter of killing all the monsters and using a trigger to open a room with even more monsters. This is nice, but not my favorite part of the game.

So I prefer playing the multiplayer mode. The gameplay in it is very, very fast. If you're not used to playing FPS games online, you're dead meat (except if you hit a n00b server ofcourse :-P ). And I'm serious here.

The Cube soundtrack is great aswell, and really brings up the adrenaline when playing online. A unique feature of this game is the ability to change levels while playing them (just hit 'E'), and even online (search for a server with the co

Permalink . RealNitro . 12:16:58 . 478 Words . Gaming, CUBE, Life . Email . 992 views

01/29/05

ZDnet Belgium pionts about a new project from the Belgian Government. Project E-coop will be funded by the belgian State Secretary Els Van Weert and the European Social Fund and will support deployment of Open Source solutions of 80 belgian SME's active in social economics. The initiative goes out from MeMO, wich stands for Mens- en Milieuvriendelijk Ondernemen (human and environment friendly in Dutch) and will start from UPCASE, wich now installs Postnuke, PHPBB2, Owl, SPIP, Sherpath, and PHPWIKI, but will be extended with installation, user support and employee training for groupware, knowledge management, e-learning, accounting, office, webbrowsers, e-mail, Linux,... Everything an SME needs to start.

Enjoyed badminton yesterday, very nice games and sometimes quite hard. Studied some statistics today, really boring, but I'm going to start studying HFC Access Networks: Case Study, wich is a course much more interesting. It handles about the modern cable (and DSL) networks, the whole structure, technologies and applications (internet, telephony, digital television,...) of it and is a case study of the network of the Flemish cable operator Telenet. I've three exams next week, not much time, let's hope it goes well.

Permalink . Peter . 21:13:42 . 187 Words . Studies, Free Software . Email . No views

01/28/05

I just recieved this message through the fedora-devel-list. The goal is to boot Fedora Core 3 by PXE and mount root from NFS (readonly). Maybe an interessting alternative for in case we can't get the real stateless working. It isn't that good, I think, no caching for example, but maybe it could be nice to temporaly provide such an installation to provide an easy management and configuration of all clients. Also interesting for some testing purposes before installing the real stateless, if we have to wait till some improvements and continuation of that project. An option to think about!

Permalink . Peter . 19:54:24 . 98 Words . Project status and progress, General . Email . No views

Yeah, the popular belgian quality newspaper De Standaard writes about a new virus (for windows of course) that pops up a window every five seconds calling you an idiot. Stupid thing, no damage, but very annoying :>>

popup window: you are an idiot

Done that exam I pointed about yesterday. Very difficult exam, but with really nice questions. Some typical engineering questions, like "you have two systems and want to connect them to provide this functionality. How should you do that? Wich technologies and why?" I think it will be OK. So that makes three down, four to go. It'll go hard next week: exams on monday, wednesday and friday. Let's hope it'll be alright.

Now I'm going to clean up a bit for going home. Play badminton this evening! Smash all frustrations out, be aware :>

Permalink . Peter . 15:16:56 . 129 Words . Life & Fun, Studies . Email . No views

01/27/05

Hello world

Hi,

Thanks to Ikke I also have my own blog now. I'm not going to introduce myself because I already did it here. Not much talk today, I have an exam tomorrow about Design of Distributed Software and I still have much to do for it.

Permalink . Peter . 16:03:33 . 46 Words . Life & Fun, Studies . Email . No views

01/26/05

Sick

I'm sick. My nose is running and my thoat hurts. Damn colds. And I have to study. I'm in the middle of what we call here 'den blok', which means I have to study all day to pass my exams. So I'm not really having the time of my life. But I felt like starting this blog, so here I go:

I'm not entirely sure about what I'll post here yet. I created categories for the games I play, for webdesign, and for 'fun', but some may disappear, and some others may be created later on. Now that I think about it, there should be a 'linux' of 'gentoo' category too. I've been enjoying gentoo for over half a year now, and I still enjoy it. Though I'm pretty p*ssed @ the ati-drivers and the way they work with xorg atm -- can't get DRI to work. This means I can't relax while playing Cube or TC:E. >:( Hopefully some new ebuilds are released soon. (note to ikke: the smileys don't appear where they should :-p )

Before I forget: many thanks to Ikke for hosting this blog! :>>

Permalink . RealNitro . 23:57:41 . 200 Words . Life . Email . 502 views

01/24/05

Beagle installed

Got beagle-cvs installed properly, started hacking on an Irssi log backend already. It rocks :-)
And so do the guys in #dashboard@GIMPNet ;-)

I'll report on how to install it (on Gentoo, of course) later.

Permalink . Ikke . 10:48:04 pm . 34 Words . Technology, Desktop . . 1237 views . 35 comments

Seems to be a very "cool" (;-)) thing lately to show some pictures with snow in your area in your blog. So here are mine (link won't stay valid).



Some more in my gallery.

Not as impressive as the pictures by Garret LeSage, John "J5" Palmieri, Tim Ney, John Trowbridge, Nat Friedman, Joe Shaw, Luis Villa and many more, but well...

Going to write a Beagle-cvs ebuild now :-)

Permalink . Ikke . 03:43:00 pm . 139 Words . Life, Desktop . . 436 views . 35 comments

Beagle is so damn impressive. Check these demo's.

Permalink . Ikke . 10:57:45 am . 22 Words . Technology, Desktop . . 197 views . 1 comment

01/23/05

I started looking into Gnome coding last days, by reading some of the great tutorials in the Developer section of the Gnome site. Currently I'm reading the stuff on GObjects, which is very interesting. I first read the article on IBM DeveloperWorks regarding "Wrapping GObjects in Python", which is a neat way to use C code in Python. It's also written by Ross Burton, as you might remember the author of the Contact Lookup Applet.
Regarding that applet: Ross is not willing to incorporate my Gaim patch, because it is too much bound to Gaim, and requires a patched version of Gaim. Too bad, Cdis should provide a solution for this.

Now what is Cdis? It's the new name for what I previously called DAL. Cdis stands for "Common Desktop Integration Standard", a name proposed by John "J5" Palmieri. Some information regarding it I sent to the Xdg list at freedesktop.org is available here. Beware, the thread got corrupted somewhere and is attached to the pkgconfig2 thread, so it continues here

I had some talkings on IRC with JakobS, the KDE maintainer of the MulticastDNS features coming in KDE 3.4, regarding automatic code generation. It will be fun to get this working (XML2C, XML2GObject, XML2KObject,...). It should be possible to do this without writing real code, just using XML and XSLT, which generates the necessary code for various platforms, based on a CdisInterface description file.

For the GObject creation, which is a very tedious task, I've been looking into Gob, the GObject builder. It just rocks. This is a sample Gob file:

requires 2.0.0

%{
//This should not be necessary, but well...
#include <stdio.h>
%}

class Ikke:GobTestOne from G:Object
{
        private int test=1;
        property INT test
                (nick = "test",
                 blurb = "Testje",
                 export,
                 link);

        public void
        printtest (self)
        {
                g_printf("%d\n", self->_priv->test);
        }

        public GObject *
        new (void)
        {
                return (GObject *) GET_NEW;
        }
}

As you can see, a very simple format.
If I process this file using gob, this is what I get:

$gob2 gobtest1.gob
$ ls
gobtest1.gob ikke-gobtestone-private.h ikke-gobtestone.h
ikke-gobtestone.c
$ wc -l ikke-gobtestone*
22 ikke-gobtestone-private.h
276 ikke-gobtestone.c
75 ikke-gobtestone.h
373 total

which is rather impressive. The generated code is also very usefull.

A "bigger" Gob file (just a sample) can be seen here, whilst this is a sample C file "using" the object. Impressive, huh?

Gnome 2.10.0 beta1 tarball creation tomorrow, launch on wednesday. Jay! I got the webcal in my Evolution Calendar ;-)

That's it for now, maybe I'll have some usefull stuff to say soon ;-)

Permalink . Ikke . 11:04:37 pm . 581 Words . Technology, Linux, Desktop . . 9760 views . 43 comments

01/20/05

Long time ago.

I've been working on a lot of things lately, hope I'll be able to report on them later, now something I did today.

I integrated Ross Burtonini's Contact Lookup Applet with Gaim.

This is the thing "in action":


The standard contact view


New button



Conversation opened

Actually this was my first Glade/GTK+ code ever, although not that much ;-) And it rocks :-) Also the Gnome devs on #gnome@GimpNet and the Gaim guys on #gaim@Freenode were a great help when needed. Thanks a lot!!!

If there's already a conversation running, that window will be focused, and if Gaim-Remote isn't running, there'll be a small error dialog box.

Gaim also needs a patch for now, but the necessary features should be standard in upcoming versions.
Make sure you got the "Remote Command" plugin enabled too.
If you're not using a patched version of Gaim (actually not Gaim, but Gaim-Remote) the "Start IM" button will also be displayed, but when pressing it, nothing will happen (no crashes or so, just nothing).

Current CLA and Gaim patches are available here.

I'll send an email to Ross, maybe this stuff can get into CVS?

I hope you like it :-)

Permalink . Ikke . 10:51:31 pm . 237 Words . Technology, Linux, Desktop . . 218 views . Leave a comment

01/15/05

Movie - Oceans12

Saw Oceans 12 yesterday evening. Never saw Oceans 11, so I can't compare, but it made me think of "The Italian Job" and "Catch me if you can".
Not a bad movie, if you're willing to turn off your brain for a while.
The trick with Julia Robberts is nice :-p But I won't say more about that B-) ;-)
By the way: funny comment on IMDB. It reveals the Robberts trick though :-(

Oceans12

Permalink . Ikke . 10:29:40 pm . 101 Words . Life . . 209 views . 1 comment
Done today

Not much DAL work, next to some arguments on the mailing list. I'll code some more stuff tomorrow. First need to work some things out.

Worked a bit on the frontpage. It's pure XHTML/CSS again now, SEO-optimized (simple html, headings, good meta tags,...). It even looks good in links :-)
Also did some mod_rewrite work for this blog (http://blog.eikke.com/ikke works now :-) others should follow), and error page handling (404's are redirected to / now).

I'm quite tired, need some sleep, first exam on tuesday. Bloody chemistry.

Permalink . Ikke . 10:17:02 pm . 104 Words . Life, Technology, Linux, Desktop . . 235 views . 3 comments
FC4 schedule released, google

Today, Bill Nothingham from RedHat announced with this message on the fedora-devel-list the release of the schedule for Fedora Core 4. He asked for proposals wich software should be included, you can follow the reactions here. Bryam, another member of that list, also asked after the Stateless Linux project for FC4. Let's hope there comes some reaction from devs, not only from within RedHat, that they want to continu development of that nice project.

At 21 feb, FC4 Test 1 should be released. We can see if Fedora Stateless is still included then.

Some other news: even till a week after this server went down, we were the first result when asked google for "fedora stateless" and you could see these messages by googles caching function. Now, this blog is up again, but we dissapeared from google results. Let's hope we come back soon again, so more people read this and maybe someone could help us or gets helped by reviewing our experiences.

Permalink . Peter . 03:46:32 . 160 Words . General . Email . No views

01/13/05

After quite a lot of (positive) replies on both desktop-devel@gnome and xdg@freedesktop, I wrote some little summary of current state.
This stuff is quite different from the initial implementation proposition, but well :-)

Thanks to RealNitro and WindowLicker I got my frontpage pure XHTML-Strict/CSS now. Thanks guys :-p

Permalink . Ikke . 10:37:46 pm . 78 Words . Technology, Linux, Desktop . . 225 views . Leave a comment

Check it here :-) Needs some more cleaning of HTML code, but well. Thanks to RubenV for the base template.

Sent an RFC to freedesktop.org's XDG list, and one to Gnome's desktop-devel. Let's hope I'll get some responses...

Permalink . Ikke . 03:06:13 pm . 91 Words . Technology, Desktop . . 188 views . Leave a comment

01/12/05

Please review this and tell me what you think.

Is it worth the effort? Has it got any use? Is there already some project like this? Enhancements?...

Thanks, Ikke

Permalink . Ikke . 06:08:26 pm . 43 Words . Technology, Linux, Desktop . . 3109 views . 29 comments
Gaim plugin... working

No proof/evidence for now, some people "enjoyed" the working state already ;-) I'm set on "away" state now when the screensaver listener detects a running screensaver, and I'm online when the screensaver is stopped.

Needs a lot of cleanups...

And I'm thinking of a new project, which (next to other things) incorporates this thing. Similar to HAL, but at desktop level -> DAL. I'll write more about it later.

Permalink . Ikke . 12:44:34 pm . 68 Words . Life . . 293 views . 16 comments

01/11/05

GaimDbus

A picture says 100x more than words...

GaimDbus sample 1 (thumb)
(thumbnail is link to original picture)

This makes me feel good :-)

The picture shows how I started and stopped xscreensaver a few times (by issuing "xscreensaver-command -activate" on a console), in the bottom left corner you can see the desktop-event-notification executable running (I did not daemonize it yet), and last but not least the Gaim debug window where my Gaim plugin shows it's received some DBUS messages sent by the server.

There is on major bug: XScreensaverStarted isnt always catched by the listener, nor by "xscreensaver-demo -watch". I will have to contact the xescreensaver maintainer I guess.

Next to this: the actual "set me away" isnt done yet. This shouldn't be too hard now, calling some functions when a DBUS message is received.

I included all necessary autotools stuff too, so it's as easy as sh autogen.sh && ./configure && make && make install.

I hope I'll be able to code the other parts tomorrow. Sleep now.

Big thanks to everyone hacking on DBUS, the guys at #gaim@freenode, and Google ;-)

Permalink . Ikke . 10:51:49 pm . 182 Words . Technology, Linux, Desktop . . 226 views . 3 comments
Session Bus working, Gentoo GDM patch and Xscreensaver jay'ness

signal interface=com.eikke.DesktopEventNotification; member=XScreensaverEvent; sender=:1.58
string:ScreensaverStarted
signal interface=com.eikke.DesktopEventNotification; member=XScreensaverEvent; sender=:1.58
string:ScreensaverStopped

Next to this, I got my session bus working thanks to the nice guys on the DBUS mailing list, Ross' IBM article and some custom hacking.

Now my session bus is started when I log in, patch for GDM's Xsession file submitted into the Gentoo Bugzilla

Next task: simple DBUS listener to test the Xscreensaver notification stuff, and write the Gaim plugin.

[edit]
DBUS test listener is done:

./dbus-watch-test
Event received: ScreensaverStarted
Event received: ScreensaverStopped

TODO:
- Gaim plugin (get DBUS inside Gaim's Glib mainloop)
- Daemonize the event submitter

Permalink . Ikke . 05:33:03 pm . 124 Words . Technology, Linux, Desktop . . 237 views . Leave a comment

01/10/05

Still haven't got the DBUS session bus working :-(

Made a patch for HAL-CVS so it broadcasts kobject-uevents to DBUS. It's of no use. Will give it some usefullness (SP?) tomorrow :-)
Current patch is here.

Started working on the xscreensaver <-> DBUS link. Some testing code is here, not indented. It's buggy, so don't look at it too closely.
sGapor gave a good hint about another possible use of this daemon: pause your media player when your screensaver is started.
Creating the Gaim plugin to idle you when the screensaver is started shouldn't be too difficult now I looked at the sources of gaim-remote.

Anyone's got the name of a music group that plays Turkish traditional music?

[edit] Just got an email from Havoc with some pointers on how to try to get the system bus working. Tomorrow...

Permalink . Ikke . 10:59:25 pm . 186 Words . Life . . 243 views . 2 comments

01/09/05

I got a (IMHO) nice UI on code.eikke.com, using AutoIndex. It still needs some hacking: I want to get some mod_rewrite working, so I can use links like http://code.eikke.com/adir/foofile, which will then be interpreted as http://code.eikke.com/index.php?dir=adir&file=foofile. AutoIndex should generate similar code too then. This way, Google (which doesn't like GET arguments) will index my pages too.
Oh, and I want a GNOME iconset. I had to choose between WinXP and KDE...

Started a discussion on kobject-uevents and DBUS on the mailing list today (link). I've been thinking about it last hours, and my proposition is stupid. Kernel events shouldn't be sent out by the DBUS daemon itself. This should be done by some separate daemon.

If only I could get my session bus working :-(

Normally I should be allowed to create a Subversion repository on my domain once more. Jay :-)

After my blog post about xscreensaver and DBUS, jwz, the xscreensaver developer, posted a comment. I mailed him regarding this issue, check "More" for a digest of our discussion.

Had a performance with my orchestra today. We played the first part of the "New World Symphony" by Dvorak, and the Ouverture from "The Barber of Seville" by Rosinni. Some minor mistakes, but it was pretty good. The public was enthousiastic.
Next performance: April 23, Conservatorium Ghent, Belgium.

=> Read more!

Permalink . Ikke . 11:00:40 pm . 1170 Words . Life, Technology, Linux, Desktop . . 561 views . 1 comment

01/08/05

Didn't have much time to code today, had to visit some family. Had a good meal ;-)

I hacked some DBUS support into XScreensaver today. Xscreensaver *should* send out a signal on the session bus now when the screensaver starts, or when it stops. Now guess what: it doesn't work (for now). Some security thing which disables me from sending events on my session bus :-(

Patch is here.

When this works, I will write a plugin for Gaim, which listens to the session bus. If it catches a screensaver event, it'll set your status to "Away" when the screensaver is started, and make you "Available" when the screensaver is stopped, if you were so when it started.

I created a new subdomain, http://code.eikke.com, where coding stuff will be hosted. I'd need some fancy "index" script, because Apache indexing doesn't work :-( I'd also need a decent Subversion repository. Maybe I should ask the guys who are so kind to host me (you know who you are).

Got some other new DBUS-based idea too, I'll discuss it on the dbus and gnome-desktop mailing lists when I get time.

Sent the mail to the dbus list regarding the kernel events stuff. Now it looks like I wasn't subscribed on that list anymore, and I need moderation... Hope they'll read and allow it soon.

Permalink . Ikke . 10:55:32 pm . 265 Words . Technology, Linux, Desktop . . 942 views . 3 comments
Dbus kernel events part 2

I got the appended strings working, thanks to the patch to udev-ize CUPS (here).

No screenshot for now, this is some of the result (from dbus-monitor):

signal interface=org.kernel.KobjectUevent; member=KobjectUevent; sender=:1.20
string:ACTION=remove
string:DEVPATH=/module/ext2
string:SUBSYSTEM=module
string:SEQNUM=1061
signal interface=org.kernel.KobjectUevent; member=KobjectUevent; sender=:1.20
string:ACTION=add
string:DEVPATH=/module/ext2
string:SUBSYSTEM=module
string:SEQNUM=1062

Some more code-cleanups, and its done :-)

Next thing TODO: get on the DBUS mailing list, ask whether it's usefull to write a patch which incorporates this into DBUS itself (optionally), so one more daemon isn't necessary.

Current code is here. Watch out: it's not completely finished!!!

Permalink . Ikke . 10:54:25 am . 134 Words . Linux . . 1436 views . Leave a comment

01/07/05

After my posting on LKML and the following answers and hints, I started hacking a bit.
This ended up in a utility that listens to kernel kobject_uevent events, and sends these to the DBUS System bus, so other applications can listen to DBUS to get kernel messages.

Evidence:

Dbus kernel events
(thumbnail is link to original image)

One problem for now: extra strings I pass with the DBUS message aren't sent. Got to look into this later... I wish there was more DBUS coding documentation, and more samples.

Permalink . Ikke . 10:18:58 pm . 106 Words . Linux . . 711 views . 1 comment

Currently busy catching up woth new Gnome improvements. Gnome 2.10 (dev 2.9) looks promising once again :-)
I've been on GimpNet (irc.gnome.org) for a while too now, just met scapor who owns this blog. Great source for new Linux-desktop users, and even advanced users can learn new stuff :-) Keep going!

Kernel events were merged into the Linux kernel, which should simplify kernel<->userland interaction a lot. There's a small utility called kdbusd which shows a prototype of listening to these kernel messages, and sends them to the DBus System Daemon. kdbusd could be broken now tough: I didn't test it yet, but it looks like the 2.6.10 uevent implementation is somewhat different than the one Arjan Van Der Ven, Robert M. Love and Kay Sievers wrote.
I started hacking more uevent calls into the vanilla kernel...

One nifty feature in Gaim I wanted to blog about some time ago is the "Expand" feature. I was too lazy to make screenshots in that time tough ;-)
Now I found a nice screenie and explanation of it in the GnomeTux blog I mentioned at the beginnning of this post. Check it here. This is the screenshot:

Stuff on my TODO list:
- Gphoto2 Gnome-VFS provider, so I can browse my Canon Ixus 500 files in Nautilus. The camera does not support usb-storage, so it can't be mounted. Gphoto2 supports it perfectly tough. But I dislike Gthumb...
- Work on Gaim - Evolution links.
- Make some program/plugin/... that enables syncing my new Nokia 3100's Agenda to Evolution's Calendar. There is a lib called Gammu that is capable of extracting data out of this phone, but there is no Evolution link. I'd need to test Gammu first tough (anyone got a DKU5 datacable?).
- Some more stuff I forgot now.

Got to study some more now, bloody chemistry.

Permalink . Ikke . 02:12:35 pm . 447 Words . Life, Technology, Linux, Desktop . . 278 views . 1 comment

01/06/05

Permalink . Ikke . 01:54:03 pm . 0 Words . Life . . 197 views . 1 comment

01/05/05

Fedora Stateless development

Yeah! Finally this blog is up again! Don't blame me, Jens or ikke, it wasn't our fault :-p

With that downtime, I hadn't the possibility to post a quite important message that could change our plans drastically and even could stop our project. As you can see in this message on the fedora-devel-list, the Fedora Stateless project isn't in active development right now. At RedHat, they're thinking about the future of the whole project. They don't know yet if they'll continue the project. I think the goals of this project are fantastic so I hope they continue it! It could be a very nice system and a great help for sysadmins of public computers, like in universities or libraries, even in companies. There could even be a nice future for it in the thin clients Hitachi is introducing. On this article (or this one for dutchspeaking people) you can see Hitachi wants to protect the information that's now stored on the notebooks of their employees by creating a thin client with no harddisk so all information must be stored on a server. In that way, a client running fedora stateless could be a more nice solution because all program's run on the computer of the employee and information is stored on the server by network mount. A big advantage is that you can use standard computers for this purpose.

So, let's hope they continue the whole project. And if they continue it, RedHat will place a number of people working on it.

If they don't continue, then I don't know what to do with our project. Just give up and stop the whole project? Restart from the beginning with an X-environment and hope we can create a working system? Others already did it, as I've seen on the fedora-devel-list. I don't know. Let's hope future will bring some good news.

Permalink . Peter . 18:02:37 . 310 Words . Project status and progress, General . Email . No views
Official statement

WE'RE UP AGAIN :-D:-D:-D:-D:-D

I'll explain the downtime later ;-)

Permalink . Ikke . 05:34:32 pm . 13 Words . Life . . 213 views . 1 comment